{"id":850,"date":"2014-06-02T21:36:34","date_gmt":"2014-06-03T02:36:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trancedout.com\/blog\/?p=850"},"modified":"2026-07-22T00:20:23","modified_gmt":"2026-07-22T05:20:23","slug":"hypnotic-somnambulism-part-deux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/trancedout.com\/blog\/hypnotic-somnambulism-part-deux\/","title":{"rendered":"Hypnotic Somnambulism, Part Deux"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In 2012, I made a post on <a href=\"http:\/\/trancedout.com\/blog\/somnambulism-in-hypnosis\/\">Somnambulism: Is It Needed?<\/a> which examined exactly what is necessary to make changes within the hypnotic state. In other words, do we need critical faculty bypass, or not?<\/p>\n<h2>A New Way of Thinking in Hypnotherapy<\/h2>\n<p>As a couple years have gone by, and I&#8217;ve received new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.weareharmonyholistic.com\">certifications in hypnotherapy<\/a> and worked with many new clients, my perspective has changed quite a bit.<\/p>\n<p>The idea has also gotten into vogue in the hypnosis world that you do not need any sort of &#8216;deep trance&#8217; state at all to do change work, and in fact some of my colleagues made their name in rebelling against this idea!<\/p>\n<p>Some of this I agree with and some I think is going way too far, but with all this in the backdrop, I have finally come around to integrating both perspectives. The realization came that I could do almost all of the therapeutic-style work in multiple scenarios, and it didn&#8217;t matter if a &#8220;proper trance&#8221; was not there.<\/p>\n<h2>The Commercial Effect<\/h2>\n<p>When someone picks up the phone to talk to us, what are they really looking for? They want change. Something isn&#8217;t working the way it should, and they want it to change. Preferably, now.<\/p>\n<p>But how does &#8216;change&#8217; occur? One of the best ways to think about this is in terms of commercials. Advertisers spend <em>billions of dollars<\/em> each year on television commercials to try to &#8230; what, get their name out there?<\/p>\n<p>No, they spend the money because the commercials work to influence buying behavior. They work big-time. You also didn&#8217;t need to be &#8220;in a trance&#8221; for it to work on you. And here comes the most important point&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Winston tastes good like a&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>If you are above about age 35 in the USA, you would probably fill in the words &#8220;cigarette should&#8221; at the end. Why? Because this was a slogan and commercial that Winston, a tobacco company, ran for many years.<\/p>\n<p>By getting that slogan into the minds of people, they started to not only believe at some abstract subconscious level that Winston was a good thing, but even consciously they formed a set of ideas around what it meant to smoke a Winston cigarette.<\/p>\n<p>What am I getting at here? Consider that a lot of what we do may not even require a hypnotic state at all. It may only require a deep-change in the mind surrounding a certain idea.<\/p>\n<h2>A Client Smoking Cessation History<\/h2>\n<p>Putting this into a hypnotherapy situation now:<\/p>\n<p>The client is a ~45 y.o. female, started smoking upon entering the military, and had tried everything under the sun. The patch, the gum, Chantix, quitting cold-turkey, giving money to a friend if she smoked, etc&#8230; just couldn&#8217;t kick the habit.<\/p>\n<p>One approach I could take is to tell her, ok we&#8217;re going to hypnotize you and give you suggestions&#8230; that&#8217;s the cookie-cutter model of doing things. Instead of that, though, I chose to talk with her <em>at length<\/em>, subtly finding out what the real triggers and motivations were for her smoking.<\/p>\n<p>While I was finding out, I was also suggesting certain ideas to her. Seeding the ideas just the same as I would if she were completely relaxed on the recliner. I mentioned all the trouble smoking had caused her, all of the panic she had gone through in the past.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of it she realized it just wasn&#8217;t worth it. <b>She saw things differently<\/b> as a result of our conversation, and formed a new opinion. Her conscious mind did it, because the truth is she was not ready to be hypnotized on that first session.<\/p>\n<p>I just got a message on my voicemail from her, saying that she has been smoke-free for 2 weeks now and never thought she would be able to do it. She is ecstatic.<\/p>\n<p>The entire time all I used was my own brand of conversational hypnosis and precise questioning which I believe was simply presenting an idea to her mind in a way she had never thought of before.<\/p>\n<h2>Coming Full Circle<\/h2>\n<p>When a person starts learning hypnosis for the first time, they are very fond of inductions and how we get a person into hypnosis. The real magic though, as far as hypnotherapy goes, is in what you do once they are there.<\/p>\n<p>After years and years of doing the updated but still traditional styles that were influenced by <a href=\"http:\/\/trancedout.com\/blog\/the-modified-dave-elman-induction-steps-and-explanation\/\">Dave Elman<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/trancedout.com\/blog\/gil-boyne-online-hypnosis-video-classes\/\">Gil Boyne<\/a>, and others, what I found is that I can do the same things I would do, just in the &#8220;waking state.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Now many people would call this waking hypnosis. I&#8217;m not so sure though. My current thinking on this is that we have certainly shifted our perceptions, but that we did so within the confines of the conscious mind.<\/p>\n<p>The conscious mind is our awareness, after all. What if we are simply seeing things differently? With my clients it&#8217;s as though the mind doubled back on itself and realized it&#8217;s own error.<\/p>\n<p><b>The traditional view of hypnosis is that the conscious mind does not influence the subconscious mind much, if at all.<\/b> That we try to use our will power to make changes at the subconscious level but that it doesn&#8217;t work.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think? <i>Can the conscious mind influence the subconscious mind, instead of the other way around?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Let me know your thoughts about this in the comment section below. I&#8217;m looking forward to reading the replies!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In 2012, I made a post on Somnambulism: Is It Needed? which examined exactly what is necessary to make changes within the hypnotic state. In other words, do we need critical faculty bypass, or not? 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